#92

Anyone who describes Pablo Honey as ‘execrable shite’ hasn’t bothered to listen to it in a long time. If it’d been any other band’s debut it would still be being hailed as a post-grunge punk rock masterpiece. It just happened to be by the band who went on to make The Bends, OK Computer, Kid A etc.

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#93

I disagree - apart from You (& Creep if I hadn’t heard it a billion times) I really don’t like any of it. Stop Whispering makes me cringe.

All opinions though, innit?

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#94

Slint.

From scrappy but interesting noise-rock to one of the best albums every made.

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#95

Also, Unwound.

Not Fake Train (which is awesome). They did a self-titled debut with a different drummer which wasn’t released until much later (according to rateyourmusic.com). It’s very rough post-hardcore basically, good but not great.

Does this count?

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#96

My thoughts on Tweez are rather similar to the thoughts on Pablo Honey above… It’s not bad it just isn’t a patch on what came after.

Carol is a tune

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#97

The weird thing about Pablo Honey is how incapable they seem of ending most of the songs well. Stop Whispering is a great case in point (actually so is Anyone can play Guitar), starts brilliantly but just peters out

#98

Janet Jackson

#99

Yeah, I try to re-listen every year or so just to see if I’ve missed something, but I really only get on with You (which is brilliant), Creep, the verses of Anyone Can Play Guitar and the chorus of Ripchord. They really shot up after that.

#100

Not everyone agrees with me on this, but I find A Catholic Education by Teenage Fanclub unlistenable. Even Everything Flows sounded much better when they re-recorded it.

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#101

I haven’t listened to ‘Pablo Honey’ in a long time but i remember liking ‘Lurgee’ a lot.

#102

I don’t agree with you on this

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#103

Lemonheads. Hate Your Friends and Creator (and to a slightly lesser extent Lick) aren’t albums I ever go back to, whereas the run from Lovey through Car Button Cloth is mostly brilliant.

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#104

I agree. Tweez is far from terrible. In fact, it’s got a brilliant sound to it and this really teenage charm to it. The playing is also really tight (especially the drums). It’s a solid noise-rock record

But yeah…it’s not Spiderland. Just as Pablo Honey is no OK Computer.

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#105

Think Lick is probably my second (or third) favourite Lemonheads record. Really like Hate Your Friends too, but it is a lot different from the stuff they would be better known for. Don’t really rate Come On Feel… at all though

#106

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#107

Maybe stretching the word “great” a little but when I saw The 1975 live touring their debut I thought they were one of the worst bands on the planet. remarkable how much better they’ve become in a relatively short space of time

#108

Pantera used to be pretty awful before they went full on groove metal. Artwork too

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#109

That cover artwork is…something

#110

I’m not quite sure why I’m mentioned in the OP. I never said I don’t listen to debut albums, my all time favourite album is a debut. I said I don’t bother with debut albums by new bands in general anymore until they have at least one other album that’s decent. I said this in the context of making exception to Inhaler whose debut is coming up.

I don’t like getting invested in a band with a good debut followed up by a bunch of shit and then having to listen to that shit cos I’m invested in the band.

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#111

Ok, sorry for the misunderstanding, I get your point now, but thanks for inspiring an spun-polyester-cone-500x500