#82

It’s patchy for sure, partly because the band changed halfway through (when Roland S Howard joined) and there are two different producers with very different approaches. The half with Roland S Howard on is pretty great though (not only Shivers but also After a Fashion and Somebody’s Watching and a couple of others) is pretty great. Basically the second side (tracks 6-10) is good.

#83

Fair, haven’t listened in a while. Can only remember Shivers and the opening track (The Nightwatchman?) off the top of my head now. The latter is catchy tbf but ridiculous to think it’s (most of) the same people that made Junkyard.

I remember Cave describing the album as “complete wank”

#84

My Vitriol.

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#85

Love this song

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#86

Underworld were new romantic synth-pop before they went full-rave.

But it’s Pablo honey, isn’t it? Execrable shite followed by (at least) a decade of towering highs.

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#87

I don’t want to say it’s terrible (it certainly has plenty of good or interesting moments) and I’m not even sure if it counts, but it’s pretty shocking that after Sad Sappy Sucker Modest Mouse immediately went on to write three of the very best albums of all time.

How is this the same band?

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#88

I’ll have to give it another chance

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#89

Dr Cugat

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#90

Hootenanny is quite awful but sorry ma and Stink are amongst the best things they put out

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#91

I believe their manager just talked them into recording it. Robert Smith wouldn’t sing on it so the bassist did and they had to phase his voice like that :grinning:

The Cure were also using the studio at night right after the Jam, so Lol Tolhurst is playing on the Jams kit!

Shallow rewards / Chris ott have a great podcast on 3IB

#92

Anyone who describes Pablo Honey as ‘execrable shite’ hasn’t bothered to listen to it in a long time. If it’d been any other band’s debut it would still be being hailed as a post-grunge punk rock masterpiece. It just happened to be by the band who went on to make The Bends, OK Computer, Kid A etc.

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#93

I disagree - apart from You (& Creep if I hadn’t heard it a billion times) I really don’t like any of it. Stop Whispering makes me cringe.

All opinions though, innit?

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#94

Slint.

From scrappy but interesting noise-rock to one of the best albums every made.

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#95

Also, Unwound.

Not Fake Train (which is awesome). They did a self-titled debut with a different drummer which wasn’t released until much later (according to rateyourmusic.com). It’s very rough post-hardcore basically, good but not great.

Does this count?

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#96

My thoughts on Tweez are rather similar to the thoughts on Pablo Honey above… It’s not bad it just isn’t a patch on what came after.

Carol is a tune

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#97

The weird thing about Pablo Honey is how incapable they seem of ending most of the songs well. Stop Whispering is a great case in point (actually so is Anyone can play Guitar), starts brilliantly but just peters out

#98

Janet Jackson

#99

Yeah, I try to re-listen every year or so just to see if I’ve missed something, but I really only get on with You (which is brilliant), Creep, the verses of Anyone Can Play Guitar and the chorus of Ripchord. They really shot up after that.

#100

Not everyone agrees with me on this, but I find A Catholic Education by Teenage Fanclub unlistenable. Even Everything Flows sounded much better when they re-recorded it.

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#101

I haven’t listened to ‘Pablo Honey’ in a long time but i remember liking ‘Lurgee’ a lot.