I don’t agree

Sources saying Cummings quick trip to Jacksonville was completely within guidelines

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Yeah in the 90s, do people still care now? (I had been made aware of him apparently wanting to come back though which would make sense for promo but also lol)

Fair enough! It seemed like the same amount of coverage but I’ll admit I don’t watch it that closely

Like I must emphasise that having serious/straight matches is fine, I just cant see a world where a completely straight PPV can be entertaining for 3hrs and there needs to be BS sprinkled in there to mitigate the deafening silence and weird grunty spot calling nature of the current product.

I think WWE have maintained a good balance so far to their credit. I’ve not seen an AEW show to comment yet

I will say I thought this DON was probably better than All Out last August, maybe on a par with Full Gear, but last year’s DON and Revolution were both better.

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They really do. All the boxing sites/podcasts etc I follow have a love/hate relationship with him because reporting on anything he does gets traffic but it’s all pointless because he’s an old man FFS. But that name recognition means something, especially to older demographics who don’t generally tune in to AEW. Making them aware it even exists is probably a good start.

Like I say, I could really have done without it (especially since WWE got there first when he actually mattered) but I can see the logic.

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I should point out I don’t think it should be completely serious the entire time either, that would be mad, there’s absolutely room for humour in wrestling when done properly. I’m more arguing against using your main event guys to having a laugh for a major PPV main event rather than to be anything taken seriously, it just feels a bit stupid even if it was entertaining in parts.

But you’ve hit on something else that’s important about this, DoN had a small crowd, it wasn’t deafening silence. I can let WWE away with this because it’s already way down in that hole and they are using those matches to get around having no crowd. But AEW did have a small crowd, which then just begs the question as to why they’re having such an obviously silly main event when they don’t need to?

I dunno, you’re probably being right and I’m being too harsh given the circumstances, I’m just a little underwhelmed by AEW doing shit like this when the expectation was that it was going to be better than WWE for in ring talent and stories etc and as it stands it’s barely achieving that. I don’t feel that expectation came from nowhere either, the company and their fawning “critics” built this up as a serious threat to WWE bit atm are fully enabling this as “The Elite lads playing wrestling”. Hopefully it a just for this current period, but I don’t feel they had to put on a match that was basically the same as money in the bank last week when they could just concentrate on being the best given the talent there.

God, I’ve definitely been listening to too much Cornette lately

Fair enough! I’m not too familiar with the boxing world so will take your world for it. He absolutely should not return in any serious capacity however…

I could understand ignoring their existence but to continue watching it seems counter productive in this case? They’re horrible cunts so who cares but they also make the most mind numbing dumbed down, silliest, blandest programming (nxt somewhat but not totally excepted)

not sure I follow you actually

I honestly don’t get how you can say one is 100% worse but that’s fine because it always is. That’s like saying the Tories are fine because they’re always cunts?
:smiley: Maybe I’m not getting you though

I’m not saying it’s fine?

Getting a pass I think does absolve them of criticism particularly if you keep watching it?

Yeah I really hope he just does a charity match in headguards at most. Even Eddie Hearn said he’d refuse to promote a real Tyson fight and he’d promote his own grandma vs a bulldozer if there were money in it.

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That could be a real life shortener, would be mad to book it.

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Ok what I mean is my expectations are already so low for WWE that whatever, that’s their deal. My point is I want AEW to do better and not be like WWE and I feel they partially do that but then also seemingly lower themselves down to that level too by doing shit like this

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Yeah I think I get you more now, and I think that’s fair.

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Like when I tune in to WWE these days it’s very much to laugh AT the product, with AEW I’m laughing more WITH it but then also question why they need to rely on this level of humour at all

dunno, have heard his grandma is in good shape so I reckon she could do it

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