Harry Potter HBO Series

The trailer was released a few days ago, what do people make of this? I wasn’t surprised that the Fantastic Beasts series took a dramatic downward slope, quite apart from the Rowling, Depp and Miller controversies they seemed wrong-headed in both conception and execution. A movie, possibly a trilogy at a push, could have been made about collecting quirky magical creatures. Rowling appeared to want to cram in a darker tone and real world horrors, especially in the latter two.

I suspect that the appeal of Potter is a combination of the orphaned child finding his place, the general “Olde Worlde” Gothic Britishness and the intrigue of a magical school. I initially thought that a big budget series was a good idea, and the only real place to go with the franchi$e. I don’t think that any more.

My main thought last year when they published a photo of the main trio last year was “God help those poor kids”, we all know how toxic the online world is, I don’t think there’s any way for even the most repsonsible parents and production companies to adequately protect them. I saw a commentator on reddit make a post within hours of the reveal saying they had seen comments complaining that Hermione was black and others complaining that she isn’t black. Making Snape black will throw up issues on various levels - the only black teacher will be seen being mean to Harry for years and come across as a baddy long before he’s revealed to be otherwise. It will also make Harry’s dad’s bullying him seem racist.

The first movie will be 25 years old by the time this debuts, a long time but still perhaps not long enough. A movie podcast I listen to had a comment from the producer who I would guess is around 30 - that there’s an almost uncanny valley quality to the trailer, it looks to close to the movie. He made the point that the old films don’t look that “old”, maybe a kid would disagree, but I do find myself agreeing.

There’s certainly an ouroborous effect where something that hasn’t really left the public consciousness is being reinterperated which comes across similarly enough to the point of effectively being a remake. A lot of set and costume designs look quite similar and there’s a good reason for that - they don’t want it to clash with the various Wizarding World locations that you can visit.

I read the books, baring the last, as an adult. Quite enjoyed them, preferred the earlier ones which were more naive and escapist. Her prose is pretty dreadful and the “world building” is slipshod at best. I’ve watched/listened to the youtuber “Shaun”’ making an extended critique of her books and I have to agree that they are more problematic than had clicked with me.

I’m not a fan of Rowling as person and any goodwill she built up with her philanthropy has been largely if not entirely nuked by her recent bigotry.

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An artistically bankrupt vehicle for an absolute horror of a human being to hoard even more gold to sit upon while spewing her bile.

Shouldn’t exist, everyone involved should be deeply ashamed and reminded of what they’ve done for the rest of their lives.

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Criticism of the adults is fair enough, does the shame also apply to the children starring in it?

Fuck it completely obviously.

But hadn’t realised it was just a retelling of exactly the same story. Like the films are still fairly massive with kids today, so who is this aimed at?

It’s HBO though so I’m holding out hope that Hagrid will hang dong

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Adults who need to read another book.

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WB shareholders I imagine.

Besides all of the JK stuff, the thing that offends me most about this reboot is the colour palette. What a fucking miserable looking show you’ve made there.

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I’ve never read the books and thought the original films were a bit crap, so it’s quite an easy decision for me to ignore it completely. I try not to be overly judgemental of people who feel differently, there are plenty who still celebrate music made by paedophiles or support football clubs owned by autocratic governments for instance.

I don’t think that wanting to re-engage with something you enjoyed as a kid despite someone’s politics makes you a bad person, but it’s such an easy way of expressing solidarity with people whilst the world hurtles off the cliff edge, and to a lesser degree i’d sooner just not waste mental energy on anybody who’s been consumed by that level of darkness, man.

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Yes unfortunately I can’t actively engage in something Rowling’s profiting from at this point.

I’ve always quite enjoyed the original films, especially when they start getting great directors like Cuaron and Desplat doing the score. But it’s not been long enough, they do still look good, and she does not need her pockets lining any more. It’s be nice to think there were consequences to outwardly being a terrible human, but I guess we all know nobody really seems to give a shit when it comes down to it.

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China, I think

I agree, the same drab colour palette you see across and lot of contemporary media. No way should GoT be more colourful than an HB adaptation.

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Colour grading so bad I wouldn’t even be able to see Hagrid’s fat clown dick

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And so like what is even is the fucking point of it is?

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The most assuredly “Shit for cunts” theres ever been

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I mean all those kids will also watch this.

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As I said in the TERF thread when we discussed this, likely the only way to avoid effectively funding this to avoid giving any money to HBO and WB.

Won’t matter how low viewing figures are because they’ll never release them, so we’ll never really know how propped up they are.

Feels like the biggest problem on a purely artistic level is that the benefit of doing a full series per book kicks in on the latter books which were longer and needed more cut in the films, so you can flesh them out more and include more minor characters and sub-plots on the show. But it’s got a long way and a lot of audience engagement and/or stability on the show to reach that. Watching that trailer, adapted from a short book which is all covered in one film does really emphasise how pointless this is. Also feels like episode endings and keeping tension going will be rendered moot by everyone knowing what happens.

Agreed that the lighting looks fucking horrific.

It’ll probably be an enormous success in spite of everything.

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Nobody will be expecting Hagrid’s absolute PIPE, i tell you what

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