šŸŽµ How Good Are They Really šŸŽµ Michael Jackson

Doesn’t get his bum out at any point does he?

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this is a crazy reach, as far as I’m aware he didn’t actually expose his arsehole or genitals or anything, made no contact with anyone, it’s about the mildest form of protest imaginable from this angle.

Also what he said afterwards is a sincere and legitimate reason to want to do something like that

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I’d forgotten about Geldof. jeez.

Personally I don’t have a problem with weirdos. Life is duller without weirdos. I do have a problem with pedophiles.

This was good though. sort of.

I really doubt it though if you want to say that people’s actions are often treated in a wider context of their previous behaviour then that’s true

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As far as I remember he kept his trousers up and wiggled his bum in the direction of the crowd. Could be wrong though, it was a long time ago.

I’m not but apologies if that is how my posts come across. Clearly that isn’t intended.

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Yeah I was too young to remember it but literally every photo of it is just him with his trousers on doing an air moon, if you will.

Obviously it’s a different kettle if he got his arse out in front of a stage full of kids, but from my understanding there’s nothing bad or problematic about what Jarvis did

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Feel like I’ve nailed my colours firmly to the ā€œyou can separate the art from the artistā€ mast, certainly in terms of how much you appreciate and evaluate each separately. Have no problem at all calling The Wasteland the finest piece of poetry ever written despite Eliot being a nasty piece of work and anti semite.

With MJ though I think there’s several things at work

-it’s perhaps harder to separate the art from the artist when a lot of his (later?) stuff feeds into /is a product of the persona that lead to his disassociation from reality /never land. Especially stuff like earth song and black and white.

-I loved Michael Jackson as a kid but I’m really not sure (thriller and some of bad excepted) his catalogue really stands up in the cold light of day these days. So is it worth the effort separating the art from the artist when the art itself itself isn’t much cop?

-dunno

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I mean you’re literally dictating how people should feel about something that seems completely harmless

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I think his juicy bottom was clothed and facing away from the stage towards bunch of record industry people. unless kids were sitting in those front tables which I don’t think they were.

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OK, explain how it wasn’t harmless then and why we should feel the same way as you

Really struggling to see it as an offensive gesture if he was fully clothed tbh. The visual equivalent of making a fart noise

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There are, but there are arguably no others with so many people around them profiting from actively enabling and covering up the ā€˜bad’ behavior.

:man_shrugging: can’t say it bothers me tbh. Not even the frontman of a 30year old indie pop band. If the worst thing someone has done was do a fully clothed moony on stage as a form of protest then im sure I can forgive them

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Really didn’t expect the contentious debate of this thread to be about the fact Jarvis Cocker once bent over on stage

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Ah there’s still time!

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It’s Earth Song, not Arse Song
#lockjarvisup

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