šŸŽµ How Good Are They Really šŸŽµ Run The Jewels

Probably my favourite current hip hop act. Killer Mike’s jaw dropping verses and El-P’s phenomenal production, second only to DOOM… a strong 4 elevated to a 5 on the basis of Walking In The Snow alone.

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I’m sure everyone has seen this already but if not, it is utterly phenomenal.

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Easily three of my favourite releases of the year too!

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It’s the same producer on that record who’s part of the SAULT stuff (Inflo). He also produced the last couple of Michael Kiwanuka albums as well I think.

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Guess I’m going on an Inflo binge, then. thanks!

Yeah, saw the whole show that that song was onā€¦ā€˜that bit’ was one of the most incredible, powerful things I’ve ever seen. Mindblowing stuff.

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It definitely had more impact coming when it did - say what you will about the songs themselves but RTJ know sequencing - but I’m really glad there’s an isolated video of it

think i’d give them a 2 in a hip hop thread but on here ill bump to a 3, also feel fine about that since ive given bumps for artists solo/past work on other hgatrs. i think ant, chairman, littlebirds and others have pretty much said what i would say in one form or another. its a rap group i really dont talk about or listen to or care to engage with but i love that they exist and that theyve crossed over. ive given all their albums at least one listen but have never felt the need to go back. that’s barring rap music which is easily the pinnacle of this partnership and has held up quite well imo.

at first i was thinking these guys would get the highest ranking spot for a hiphop artist/group but the thread is playing out more appropriately than i imagined.

wish he woulda got better production from southern producers when he was coming on. or that he woulda got outkast affiliated before their last good album (snappin and trappin is one of the great weird rap songs)cos it woulda been cool to hear him over some prime organize noize production.

i do like km over southern bangers tho

i should add that i quite like el-p as a rapper. think he’s got a good rap voice and a frantic energy that works on record. but it can grate over an albums worth of material.

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A three from me. I enjoy their stuff when it’s on but it has no draw at all for me. Not sure why, just somehow find it a bit exhausting to listen to

It’s funny when this kicks in, can be hard to explain it sometimes. I’ve never fallen in love with At the Drive-In for exactly the same reason, they always just seem a bit unrelenting (or at least RoC as an album was)

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Yeah as I wrote that I was trying to work out why I didn’t tend to find the same thing with exactly that sort of music.

It’s possible that I just never listen to Run The Jewels when I’m in the right mood. Maybe next time I reach for loud rock I should reach for RTJ and then it’ll fix in and become one of those albums that puts me in a good mood.

Yeah RoC is relentless, but the earlier stuff does have a bit more breathing room (not as many drugs at play probably). Vaya * In/Casno/Out are good for this

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Yeah they were never my band like they are for some people, but they have great moments

Star Slight might still be my favourite tracks of theirs though

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Kind of echo what others have said here.
Really like them both individually, Cancer For Cure & RAP Music we’re both top 5 of 2012 for me and nothing they have done together as RTJ touches that.

Mike is a great rapper, El is a cracking producer, and I’m really glad they exist and even though they’ve never made an album I adore they’ve got a couple of absolute tunes.

Wouldn’t be near my first choice if I was throwing on a hip-hop album though. Although as a gateway to other stuff I think they are probably really successful.

It’s a 3 because they are a ton of fun live & are both really good guys who you can’t help but like.

Listening to Jay Electronica’s Act 2 for the first time. If only he’d finished this and mixed it properly… could have been one of the great albums.

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Would add Chris Crack to this list…

He’s new on me, but particularly loving ā€˜White People Love Algorithms’. Sound is a bit of a throwback but tons of fun.

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You can run backwards through a field of dicks, m9

:stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:

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I love Chris Crack. Can’t stop listening to Hoes at Trader Joe’s lol. Think he just released his 4th project from this year.

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My most played song of 2020. So so so good.

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So I get the criticism of RTJ being for bearded rock fans. I guess I’m one, and it’s been over a decade since I’ve been so excited by a rap album as RTJ4.

But I think one thing that’s not been directly discussed in this thread is its political appeal. And not just Walking in the Snow: the ethos of the whole album is one jubilant middle finger to political and economic greed and the structures that defend it, and that’s something I can really get behind. In that sense, it’s comparable to Jeff Rosenstock’s NO DREAM, which, like RTJ4, is one of my favourite albums of the year.

(It’s also why I prefer RTJ4 as an album to their previous ones, even RTJ2, because, well, at 34 I’m exhausted by the prospect of having any genitalia in my mouth for more than 15 minutes, let alone all day.)

I’m no doubt massively out of touch, but one reason I’ve struggled to engage with the genre in recent years has been an inability to relate to the world it depicts. I can’t pretend to be a middle-class gully badman like I could when I was 18, and I’ve found myself increasingly using punk and emo as a way to quell my concerns about the alt-right, collapsing democratic norms and political antipathy. If I can find more hip-hop or rap that confronts that stuff in 2020, then I’m all here for it.

Anything with the same energy as Sons of Kemet’s My Queen is Doreen Lawrence, for example:

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