Think about it!
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As @guntrip says, is being considered as well as or instead of Sunak’s ‘nobody born after [date] can buy tobacco products’.
It’s to stop smoking-related deaths and illnesses for would-be smokers rather than from passive smoking.
I reckon they will either do the age thing or this public space ban.
Be nice not to be the one sat in a pub on their own while everyone goes for a cig outside. oversimplification and a bit melodramatic but I’m going with it.
As echoed by others there are bigger problems than this, although ban it outside of hospitals and surely it is easy to implement without law changes. The other thing it comes slightly across as taking one of life pleasures while everything is bone crushingly shit or you can play it as that.
Basically do it but this is one of those things you do from a point of strength or when you are on your way out this isn’t a 1st 100 day policy don’t particularly remember the indoor smoking ban being a flagship policy at the time? Admittedly I was an absolute degenerate at the time so I don’t remember that much in terms of the news.
They don’t have the popular support for this do they? surely there is polling that shows that this isn’t widely popular?
Surely the NHS being on its knees is due to underfunding and rapid population growth. Fuck all people smoke compared to even a couple of decades back
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Even as admin working for the NHS is so so so demoralising now you can see everything falling apart at the seams abd the covid pandemic pushed working for the nhs from frustrating/infuriating to outright depressing. Still not even remotely close to recovering from the covid restrictions - not even close. Its so depressing - doesnt help that the staff is poorer than ever even with pay increases- so there will probably be more strikes.
I can only imagine how it feels on the front line. Everyone here if u have an iverdue appo8ntment dint wait for it to show up - chase it down- otherwise youll be in limbo for years. So yeah something substantial would be nice not this stipid point scoring
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They mentioned smoking outside hospitals on the news earlier and I thought of you guys 
I’ve never smoked. But I don’t agree in banning it from beer gardens, if people want to it’s fine.
But it should be banned outside hospital entrances, restaurant terraces and playgrounds.
The most illegal thing that I’d ever seen
Were smokers outside the hospital doors
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smokers die young and quickly
then you don’t have to pay them a pension OR the longer term costs of living for ages with multiple health conditions
we should be encouraging smoking, financially speaking
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if one can’t sit outside a pub with a cigarette how am i supposed to meet women
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Ex smoker here. I hate cig smoke and really hate people lighting up in beer gardens or at outdoor gigs.
Fuck smoking, basically.
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Nick Robinson has just tried the “where does it stop? Are you going to ban crisps and chocolate?” angle with Jackie smith and jaw droppingly her response was basically “we’re looking into it”.
So it is an authoritarianism thing then
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Chaining rollies while drinking 8-12 pints in a beer garden is my favourite summer hobby
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cigs arent too bad. cigars though fucking stink and take about 6 hours… fuck them off.
leave it to the pubs to decide though 
family pub/mainly eating pub = no smoking, sports pub = smoking area etc
like what they gonna do… make everyone stand on the other side of the road from the pub?
Too tired to cook?
You will certainly not regret chaining rollies with 8-12 pints
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I’ll spatchcock some crisps, nuts and hog lumps for sustenance
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Don’t think it should be banned outright, make it up to each place up make it’s own rules. Free rotten eggs to pelt at people who insist on ignoring those rules. Smoking in playgrounds isn’t cool though. Tobacco companies should only be allowed to run as not for profits with strict rules on salaries or CEOs must smoke as many a day as their biggest consumer and not be entitled to healthcare
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No harm in asking but people should feel free to say no too
Whether I’d do either would depends on the pub and vibe
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I wouldn’t call it a left thing, I’d call it an authoritarian thing
to me the terms left and right is defined by economics with authoritarian and liberal defined by social policy. there’s crossover but this topic is almost entirely the latter.
basically I think the political compass is useful here
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The Kier Starmer story
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