šŸŽµ How Good Are They Really šŸŽµ New Order

love the weird version of the ā€˜birds and the bees’ one. the moodier one, which has less of a beat. what a great track.

Bangers for days. An all timer, easy 5

I only got into them during the first lockdown, I think after reading their thread on here. Bit odd as I’ve been listening to Joy Division since the late '90s, but it was nice to be able to dive in to such a deep catalogue. They had a knack for writing really uplifting melodies with an undercurrent of sadness, didn’t they? Ceremony and Age of Consent are my favourite songs, but I think Low Life is probably their most consistent album. Probably a 5.

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Extending it even further, Peter Hook’s son is their bassist now. I’m not super familiar with them but I know people have said their influence shows up on the Zwan album (particularly Settle Down) and The Future Embrace too.

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Vastly diminishing returns, still a 5 for some of the purest sounding pop perfection and experimentation with genuine payoffs there’s ever been.

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Massive 5

Even tho Peter Hook is one of the biggest dicks in music

I’ll probably abstain, I need to get more familiar with them. Discovered them through Turn My Way obviously but never explored further until this summer when @daggers posted an unlabeled video of Leave Me Alone and I thought it was a Scott Hutchison song I’d never heard. Immediately jumped into Power Corruption and Lies after that, and while I like it, it feels overall like a pretty good album that happens to have an extraordinary closing song.

Edit: Way, not Head. Had Live on the brain I guess.

You made my point a lot better than I did!

It is the slightly amateur aspects of New Order that really seal the deal for me. (Their stellar musical output doesn’t do them any harm either)

I seem to remember hearing that Blue Monday was supposed to have a fully computerised vocal, so that they could leave it going on the stage and have a beer or two. And after hours and hours they got it working, then it somehow got accidentally deleted and they couldn’t be arsed to do it again.

Or the post-it notes with possible song titles on that they randomly choose which is why the song titles rarely have any bearing on the songs.

Or finding out from one of the other threads on here that ā€œFine Timeā€ was actually just a reminder to Steven that he needed to pay a parking fine.

I don’t know how much of this sort of thing is true, and you know they are the kind of band that would take the piss a bit, but I like to believe it.

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I think they got a lot of their early titles from a poster for a student movie festival or something like that that was hanging somewhere they were rehearsing.

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  1. Ceremony. What a debut single.
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I love this version. The slightly ramshackle feel really suits the song

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Yes, I bought it somewhat retrospectively in 1983. Record shops kept stock of old singles and the New Order ones still rode high in the Independent Charts.

Some 8 months later, again 1981. Procession.

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December 1981. Signs of something else begin to emerge.

Everything’s Gone Green.

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Into 1982. The space yet density in this.

Temptation.

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Just shy of a year later, they changed music forever for me. I’ll stand by it being my 2nd favourite single release of all-time.

  1. Blue Monday.
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In the song poll I should have been voting for this or True Faith but it’s one of those songs that I’ve heard too many times and don’t get any joy from listening to it anymore (same with True Faith)

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That’s fair enough. A lot of people don’t cite Blue Monday as being the epic game changing record that it is. I adore it and have never tired of it. Love that it finally pulls away from Joy Division. I have mused many times before, if Ian Cutis had lived and if they also had headed in the same broad direction - his vocals on it would have been mind-blowing.

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Still 1983 and Blue Monday is followed up with an interesting single. Confusion.

Metal guitar licks, Electro and their own unique sound.

1984 and they are here to stay. The strings and synths. The lyrics, the hope and despair.

The majestic Thieves Like Us.

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Love is the air that supports the ego or supports the eagle? For years (decades even) I thought it was the former but apparently it’s the latter