Regret is still such an amazing, warm blanket of a song. By rights I should be sick of it - it used to be played (not in full, just the guitar intro) every morning on Irish radio during the news/weather when I was going to school. Lol @ the Baywatch version, such a defiantly cringey band at times.

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Read that as Barnes (John.) Got very confused for a second there.

One of those songs that starts and I think “yeah this is from their shit phase…” and then it kicks in and I remember that actually it’s bloody great. Once it gets beyond the “woo-oo” bit at the start.

the sheer amount of singles/alt versions/b-sides of songs is causing my OCD to go into overdrive

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5/5 - so many great tracks :+1:

Seen them a bunch of times over the years, but two appearances that stand out for me were massive shows they did off the back of relatively unpopular albums.

Reading Festival 1993 - a gloriously warm Sunday evening turned out to be the perfect backdrop for the songs off Republic. Great way to close the festival…

Finsbury Park 2002 - a distinctly not warm and in fact very rainy Sunday evening nonetheless provided a decent backdrop for the songs off Get Ready. This was shortly after they had first started adding Joy Division songs to their set…

But anyway, excellent band, incredibly innovative, so many great tunes, been going for 40 years and still feel relevant and a key part of Manchester, and British music’s DNA.

Yes the lyrics can be a bit simple but maybe while Joy Division are every pop fan’s secret favourite cult band, New Order are every hipster’s secret favourite pop band. A strong 4.

Primitive Notion from Get Ready - haven’t listened to this in ages, what a song.

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2 for inventing the 80s and being named after Nazis again

An astonishingly good singles band with a handful of incredibly tight albums to back it up. I don’t really have any formative New Order stories (and in all truth I came to them pretty late after years of sworn allegiance to Joy Division) but they won me over one day when the lyrics to True Faith (trite as they are) struck a chord and sparked a full-on Rabbit Hole investigation. A truly transformative/transportive Night Club moment didn’t hurt either - it’s very of its time these days, but I’d posit Hardfloor’s mix of Blue Monday-95 as one of the greatest remixes of all time:

No way. do they get less than a 5 from me. I’ve loved them ever since I was in school, and still feel exactly the same way.

Like Joy Division, I’ve always found their music takes me forever to click with for some reason, but when it does it never lets go. I think Substance was the first of their that I really got into (yes I know it’s a compilation but it’s bloody amazing)

Proper albums-wise, I think Technique is their only one I’d call flawless. I think Power, Corruption and Lies is a little overrated - it’s got a few really great songs on it, but equally a load that do nothing for me.

Brotherhood was the other one I got into the most even though I think State of the Nation is one of their weakest singles.

Music Complete was also surprisingly great, and although I’ve not heard it as much as the others it was pretty damn consistent.

Music aside, I just love them as a band. Yes there’s tension there, and Peter Hook is maybe a bit of an arse, but they are a band I feel I can really identify with. I think their flaws and difficulties just make me connect with them more. And things like losing money on the best settling 12" of all time is just nuts, but I just find that kind of thing really endearing.

I do love Joy Division, and think if Ian had come along for the ride, New Order might have been even better. I know he was really into the electronic side and would have provided a really interesting dark edge to the songs. But at the same time, how the hell did New Order get so good from the ashes of that band?

I’ve always loved that Bernard took up vocals even though he didn’t really want to, and is frankly a terrible singer if you hear him live. As someone with the worst ever singing voice, I can really relate to it. And even listening to him murder Bizarre Love Triangle just feels me with joy somehow.

Favourite song is a difficult one, but going for True Faith. The video for it was such a big deal at the time even though I was slow to realise it. No matter how many times I have heard this song - and it is a ridiculous number of times - I still get a thrill if it comes on the radio. And I’m a fickle fucker that gets bored easily.

I do love Ceremony, Bizarre Love Triangle, Thieves Like Us, Regret and so many others.

Absolutely a 5.

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I first heard Blue Monday in 1983 on the radio, didn’t know who it was, just that it was like nothing I’d heard before. Sure, I heard a track with beats and disco before. Sure, I’d heard a few Kraftwerk tracks - but this sound was calling to me, like directly.

Before I heard anything else by them (and finding out who they were) I bought Blue Monday and fell totally in love with it and it’s dubbier B-Side The Beach). Along with this I borrowed Closer (Joy Division), I didn’t know the bands were connected briefly.

Whilst Closer was redefining music for me, New Order were active and I would say, honestly, for a period they were my favourite band. There is a difference between Joy Division and New Order and I see it as New Order, after finding their feet, press the colour button on Joy Division’s other worldly sound and electrifying the 80’s as they did this.

I sought and bought all (readily available) singles and albums by both bands. This didn’t take too long as their back catalogues at this point were still sparse.

The absolute moment New Order find their feet is Power, Corruption & Lies, which astonished me that it didn’t feature Blue Monday. Then I got into thinking about how uncommercial they were and for some reason this really clicked with me. Not sure how but the band gave me confidence and self esteem. A few years later when Low Life was released I bought this on day of release from Discovery Records in Solihull and I can clearly recall someone from the year above at school asking me what was in the record bag when he saw me on the bus home. As I described the band he looked at me as if I was cool, the band, somehow helped me grow and believe in myself, feels dumb to type this, but it’s true. I’d transformed from shy kid to cool teenager and New Order made me believe in myself.

Back to 1984, and my grandmother was going to but me a flat back cassette player to replace the one I’d left in a chip shop by accident whilst playing Space Invaders. I thought this would be a like for like mono replacement, but when she saw me looking longingly at a stereo cassette player simply asked, “would you like that one?”. I can’t thank her enough for that gift (R.I.P. Nan, love you). When I got home with it and a pack of blank BASF cassettes, almost like destiny, New Order were just about to play live on television and Radio 1 for a telethon thing (telethons were quite new then).

The ramshackle and electronica of that performance, I’d never seen anything like this. We didn’t have a video recorder, but in ways listening to this performance was better than rewatching it, over and over I listened to this. The attitude and disdain in it resonated with me, still does.

All of their 80’s singles are barn stormingly excellent. Movement is the sound of a band recovering and looking for direction. It sounds better now that it did then. Power, Corruption & Lies precedes the Acid House scene by a near 7 years whilst sounding steeped in classical vibes.

I would say, because of its placement, my age then and what they meant to me Low Life is my favourite New Order album. For a band I loved to actively release such a current sound then and mean so much to me - and fucking nail everything you wanted them to, it’s a record I still love.

Brotherhood is a small dip, but still a very good album. I saw them only live once, Glastonbury 1987 and that set was so perfect for me at 17 years of age. In ways I’m glad I’ve never seen them again. Leave the best things and times perfect. They were the right band to headline that hot night, real 10/10 material.

From Movement at the dawn of the 80’s to Technique at the end of the 80’s, I can’t think of many bands that span a decade so perfectly. Technique is a lovely album, it’s Acid House vibe is clear and they take in what is going on around them.

Shit, I’m typing too much here. I lose interest in them after Technique although I really acknowledge people like the later material.

It’s a 5 from me.

“turn this light off you ****”

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Movement and the early singles are great. Rest of the 80s singles are decent but not really bothered about the albums. No interest after that really. Last album sounded alright but never went back to it again.

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Yeah, this. He’s achieved the trick of being both a poor singer and (generally) a bad lyricist, yet somehow this isn’t a negative for the band and gives them a kind of real quality, like their brilliance is a happy accident. They’re a great example of the whole being more than the sum of its parts.

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One of the best bits so far of the new podcast they have done is them all describing the terrible process of trying to come up with lyrics and taking turns on vocals at the start of New Order.

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The full 12” version of Perfect Kiss is one of those things where you listen to it, and when it finishes you think to yourself “fucking hell, music’s brilliant, innit?”.

And it’s not even my favourite of theirs (I’d vote Sunset).

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the last three tracks on Technique are absolutely flawless. What a way to close an album.

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Find this really eerie. Sumner looks like he’s seen a ghost (probably just off his face)

What Low-Life cover insert do you use?

  • Bernard
  • Peter
  • Steve
  • Gillian

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a 4 from me, only missing out on a 5 because they’re a band I respect more than love and never felt the need to dive in much past the singles (which are all great)

I’m gonna take the bullet and expand on the Smashing Pumpkins link that got brought up earlier, but I love how the whole thing goes full circle with Get Ready with Flood producing after trying to recreate New Order’s sound a year or two earlier on Machina AND Billy Corgan guests on that album.

(even the videos are similar, both such bangers)

Billy was always a massive Joy Division/New Order fan so it all makes sense:

also just pre-empting if you’re gonna make the alarm joke, fuck off, it’s relevant.

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Clearly a 5