Should headline acts go on earlier?

We live in a country where most of the population get up for work at 7am (or earlier)

But most headline acts go on stage at 9pm

Surely there should be more of a conversation about earlier stage times and matinee gigs (especially on Sundays)?

Feels like the live industry in peril stories are picking up pace but the solutions tend to fixate on higher ticket prices or touts, rather than stuff like living in a commuter town of a major city often means not getting home from a show until 1am or earlier if you can drive (less good for the venues bar take, I’d presume).

Seems rare for acts to do matinee gigs outside of in stores and projects like loud in libraries

Plenty of reasons matinee gigs during the week are harder to do (although don’t students tend to get Wednesday afternoons off? And in the summer lots of companies give staff Friday afternoons off?)

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It’s true what they say, age doesn’t come by itself.

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We talk about it literally all the time on here

And yes, they should

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Depends on the act.

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Where does this happen and where do I apply? It doesn’t happen for the 20 year old who is shift working on the phones.

Only ever had it as a contractor and I still had to work back the 90 minutes of time during the week.

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yeah some shouldn’t even go on at all

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Probably done to maximise bar receipts in general. But yeah, gig times cater to students and no one else really

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No, wouldn’t be able to get to any gigs I wanted to on time otherwise

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All gigs should end by ten. I’ve been to couple of gigs that have finished at a civilised time and especially at this time of year it’s so nice to emerge from the venue and it not be fully dark (particularly when you’ve got a 20-30 mile drive home).

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Local convention in Edinburgh was that gigs were done by ten. That was nice.

Remember from my London days that Upset the Rhythm shows used to be notorious for running late. Remember going to one show on a Sunday where the headliner didn’t start until 11pm. Diabolical.

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Getting home later is far less of a barrier to going than the gig being on so early that you’re worried you’ll miss it and sack it off altogether.

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Last gig I was at, the headliner came on at 9:50. I’ve an hour home when a gig finishes, more if it’s in the wilds of East London and I’m up for work at 6:30.
It really puts me off going.

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Think 8:30/9 - 10 is about the sweet spot for headliners. Early enough finish for late trains, late enough start for getting there after work. No one needs more than 90 minutes on stage, and we can ban encores while we’re there

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Would rather have a day at work where I got a couple of hours sleep less than normal but it doesnt really matter than have to use holiday days to get to actually see them

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Well, yes. Those arena dates aren’t selling badly because they might not end before 10.30.

I got mocked openly by a hipster barmaid in Birmingham for running out of an Ian Svenonius gig after 2 mins because it started so late and I was going to miss my last train. He started the show sliding on his back through the crowd and she probably thought I was a freaked out square. Which is only half right.

Anyway the answer is better public transport and flexible work options within reason?

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Local punk venue bands playing until 11.30: fine

Big touring act where people have probably traveled out of town: probably should communicate these things better idk

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Our friends at Crywank are trying to finish by 10

https://x.com/crywankband/status/1799420336607305894?s=46

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This has been done to death, lots of different interests conflicting really, just the way it is. If the promoter wants it at a certain time who am i to argue.

I think people especially who don’t have to travel long distances or figure out places to stay overnight should probably just lookat the glass as half full.

I know when i was living in Galway people would generally come to the gigs as late as possible so i get why the promoters do that

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Sunday-Thursday by 10
Friday-Saturday by 11

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