The Needle Drop (Anthony Fantano)

Ah, a bit of old forum style willy waving for the purists

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Found his reviewing style beyond tedious. His “let’s look at wacky bandcamp stuff” was okay, mainly for the absolute batshit stuff I found from that.

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I have no idea what he’s like as a person. But don’t mind his reviews at all. Better than a lot out there .

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A little bit off topic but can anyone point me to an article that gives a decent overview/explanation of what is going on with all this ‘alt-right’ internet based stuff?

I find it utterly bewildering. 4Chan, reddit, Facebook groups, youtube ‘stars’ - basically seems to be the idea that somehow being a shithead misogynist & racist is somehow funny or ironic. So ‘it’s all a joke’ except that it isn’t but that’s the actual joke…or something.

Are we going to find out half of these youtube people are actually being paid by the Russian government as well?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Elephant-Room-Journey-Campaign-Alt-Right-ebook/dp/B01LXOO7UQ

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I check out his end of year lists and use him (perhaps wrongly given the circumstances) to find acts from genres I’m not so familer with (metal and Hip hop mainly)

I dont think he can really be described as ‘alt right’ or even ‘alt light’ but he is a good example of a trend of youtubers of culture becoming gateway drugs to reactionairy YouTube and ultimately the alt right. This can also be seen in Piewdiepie, H3H3, and JonTron amoung others. This is seriously worrying given the demographics of YouTube watchers.

He has clearly befriended people like Sargon as they exist in the same world an rather uncritically accepted his arguments.

Which is pretty insane as Sargon is basically a massive idiot who positions himself as a logic guy but commits numerous logical fallacies in all his vids and misrepresents hugely the studies he cites.

I think this is a good overview: The alt-right: Reactionary rehabilitation for white masculinity | Eurozine

Full disclosure: Its written by a very clever academic friend.

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Used to watch his videos to while away time at work. Always found him a bit irksome though. Daft prick.

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But kill all normies by Angela Nagle is the go to text atm

Thanks - will check these out.

This is the thing that is most worrying for me. Young kids are watching shit like those above and not getting the ‘irony’ (if it’s even there to begin with). Feminism is a punchline, being pro social justice is seen as a bad thing and calling anyone out on anything is seen as stifling free speech. Scary.

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Ubiquitous, please-like-me, pretentious asshat.

Clearly I am a bit too old now because I am baffled by this concept.

Why would you listen to someone else’s opinion on the internet for ten minutes when you could listen to ten minutes of said album and form your own, because you are on the internet where the album is likely freely available to stream? This isn’t a magazines and buying cds situation, this is lunacy!

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he’s an annoying ballbag but i occasionally click when he’s reviewing something cool just to see the score mostly. i’m not particularly surprised from his videos that he turns out to be a meme loving edgelord

i’ve always found this really try-hard tbh

Not defending the needle drop itself…but your argument basically amounts to “why read any reviews”. Listening and forming your own opinion is most important, sure, but I’ve investigated or revisited countless stuff through reviews that have dramatically altered my music taste.

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No, that’s not what I meant. I absolutely understand why you would read reviews either alongside listening to music or at a time when you could not access music. I frequently read reviews in transit or at home whilst listening to music etc etc. and at no point have I suggested they aren’t a valuable medium.

What I don’t understand is what I would perceive to be the choice to listen to reviews instead of listen to some tracks off said album. Maybe it’s just me but I would far rather spend that time listening to the music and I can’t seem to work out situations where I would listen to reviews instead of music if that makes sense? Like surely by being able to access YouTube or whatever you could also access Soundcloud or Spotify just as easily?

It’s the form of the reviews as an online listenable medium (exactly what the music is) that throws me, but as I said maybe it’s just me…

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Ah, I get you now. Well, I certainly prefer print reviews, and fwiw theneedledrop winds quite a few people up. But sometimes video or audio can add a little bit more, either through snippets of songs or the way it’s delivered.

I get your point though. They’re not for everyone.

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I hadn’t considered the possibility of being able to focus on and play certain aspects of the song or I guess you could do the same with influences etc to better illustrate a point than one could in print where you can have to kind of rely on the reader’s existing familiarity with what you are discussing.

I mean I don’t know that I’m gonna seek any out, but I can start to understand how they could be used slightly differently to written reviews.